Re: LS Program: Instant Cloning

From: Rob Stillwell (Stills@Bigfoot.com)
Date: Thu Feb 25 1999 - 04:27:44 GMT


Diane, thanks for your reply. This has been really working my brain, so
it was great to get feedback. I am still not sure where we are. Can
you or anyone provide resolution?

Diane:
"As I understand it, the SOM says that there are two realms of reality:
subjects who know things and objects which are known things. That's
basically what Descartes said. So "I" can only be either psychic or
physical. But the SOM later went on to ecide that ony the physical is
real. And finally it comes to the bizarre conclusion that the psychic is
actually a feature of the physical, as well as possibly being separate
from it."

Rob asks:
I thought that for SOM reality is simply matter which can be subdivided
into subjects and objects. In what way do you mean that the psychic is
possibly separate? Are there really mainstream SOM scientists/academics
who believe in aspects of reality that are not derived from matter? If
yes, is the MOQ really that profound? If no, then my doesn't my
argument still hold in actually killing SOM?

Excerpt from my Feb 8 post:
>Step 1. There exists an unique, solitary, indivisible entity called
"I".
>Step 2. SOM assumption. Reality is only made of matter and energy.
>Step 3. "I" must somehow be defined in terms of matter and energy.
(From 1
and 2).
>Step 4. A tiny unit of matter and energy does not contain (define) "I".

>Step 5. "I" can only be identified/defined by a macro system (recipe)
of
matter and energy
>not specific to any part.
>Step 6. Anything only defined as a recipe can be reproduced.
>Step 7. Step 6. Contradicts step 1.

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