MD In Defense Of Socialism?

Date: Sun May 27 2001 - 19:42:47 BST

To All socialists and anti free enterprise types
>From Rog

I have been tempted to reply to Andrea, Stephen, David and others' specific
posts in defense of socialism and/or attacking free enterprise, but have
resisted the urge. To be blunt, I find their arguments to be foundationless.
In general, there views (seem to me to) have really weird misunderstandings
of both the concepts behind and the inner workings of capitalism. I agree we
should keep the focus within the confines of the metaphysics, but with that
settled, I still have a handfull of questions to all the anti-free enterprise
folks out there (you know who you are). My questions, in no particular order

1) How can you argue for various brands of socialism despite their obvious
inability to work? Or in the overwhelming evidence that free
enterprise/representational free democracy works so well in its modern form?
(In MOQ terms, it is proven to be the most moral or highest quality) What was
the game score in that 20th century battle? $450 trillion to none? (OK, you
can add whatever the GNP is of Cuba and N Korea)?

2) How can you argue for something that is against human nature (ie that
people should work for the benefit of "the state" "collective" rather than
for themself)? You don't think this is some type of requirement for social
quality do you?

3) How can you argue for centralizing power in the hands of the state rather
than decentralizing as is so resplendent in modern capitalism? Don't you see
the value of checks and balances of competing interests as opposed to the
sheer potential for exploitation of power centralization?

4) How can you be fans of the MOQ -- which dismissed socialism as less
dynamic and therefore less moral than free enterprise -- and socialists?

5) How can you denigrate selfishness when it obviously means "freedom to
pursue that which one values" in terms of the MOQ? Certainly you don't think
capitalism promotes viscious win/lose selfishness more than other economic
models do? Or do you?

6) How can you condemn free enterprise and representative democracy for
pollution and environmental destruction, when the track record, at least per
unit of production, is perhaps the best of any type of society? (certainly
better than the socialist economies)

7) How can you fault that which gives the most freedom in light of your
beliefs in the MOQ? This includes the hallowed freedom to "not get a job" to
Andrea's objections and even the freedom to "play soccer and think," to
David's. (Though it certainly doesn't usually reward folks to do either
unless quite talented)

8) Don't you see that the various free enterprise societies (including yours)
are also the places with the highest intellectual accomplishments? Science,
philosophy, technology, literature, mathematics, art?

I am not arguing that any free enterprise system that exists today is perfect
(though I would argue that the US is way, way above all others). Most of the
problems that free enterprise/democracy faces weren't creations of free
enterprise as much as they are unsolved holdovers of pre-modern ways.
Quality continues to advance, and free enterprise/democracy as practiced in
various modern societies is the best at establishing social quality and hence
establishing the foundation for intellectual quality to take root on it. Now
certainly none of you can argue with that ...Can you?

(he says with a sly grin)


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