Re: MD Irrationality

From: Platt Holden (
Date: Sat Sep 28 2002 - 14:56:49 BST

> If that nanotech device just murders us survives is it still inferior What
> if a virus destroys humanity? How then, do you define what is higher or
> lower. Who sets the standard. Not us if we are not here.
Will there be anything if we are not here? Arguably the thorniest
question in philosophy. (Does a tree falling in a forest make a sound if
there's no one to hear it?). Some quantum physicists tell us there's
nothing until it is observed. Philosophers like Richard Rorty tell us
there's nothing until some group says so. Pirsig tells us reality is
Quality, a force for Good that exists whether we're here or not.

So I think Pirsig's answer to your question, "Who sets the standard?"
would be "Quality." If we were to get wiped out, presumably Quality
would begin again to create the moral levels as it did before. Static
patterns can be destroyed, but not DQ.

I side with Pirsig. Where do you come down?


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