Sun, 27 Sep 1998 Glen Dickey (>) wrote to Jonathan B. Marder (>>):
> > As I see it, mind
> > is pure abstraction, while matter involves PERCEPTION of patterns and
> > thus also contains abstraction.
> Seems to me that both involve perception. All perception is intentional.
> Humans are just more accustomed to our minds. I'm pretty used to the patterns
> of my mind. My concept of the non-intellectual PoV is very much based on
> perception as well. I focus on different aspects of my experiences (or reality)
> based on my activity and environment. I think most people do. Why do say that
> mind and matter differ in this?
Glen & Jonathan and LS.
I support your view that Q-Intellect is as much about about perception
as the lower Q-levels, but to see this one has to drop the idea that
Q-intellect corresponds to SOM's mind. Intellect is perception of
static intellectual values; not the special case that Jonathan wants
to make it into.
If my memory serves me you made your entry with a piece about language
as the carrier of intellectual value to a degree that mankind seems
"...suspended in language" (Niels Bohr) and I am unable to look upon
language otherwise than subject- (predicate) object orientated. What
we call thinking is an inner dialogue and consequently SO-fixated.
Which supports my Intellect as SO-thinking thesis. I may be deep
in my own SOTAQI trench but could you hand me down an example
of non-SO intellectual pattern?
This your passage intrigues me a little though:
> > As I see it, mind is pure abstraction, while matter involves
>> PERCEPTION of patterns and thus also contains abstraction.
'Pure abstraction' and 'abstraction' !. Are you aspiring to become
a latter day Imanuel Kant? :-) But seriously, I see what you hint at
and please look to my next Glen/Jonathan post to see my attempt at
an Intellect as SO thinking 'proof'.
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