Re: MD the quality of equality

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Tue Sep 07 2004 - 14:09:09 BST

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    Dear Wim,

    > You suggest:
    > 1) 'social equality is a value judgment and ... value judgments ... will
    > vary dramatically from individual to individual depending on life
    > experiences' 2) 'those in authority would do well to treat their subjects
    > equally else resentment of those who perceive themselves treated unfairly
    > boils over into revolution. But, it seems that such resentment must be
    > learned because so many people are perfectly willing to accept their lot in
    > life.' 3) 'perhaps we can agree that in the Western World the notion of
    > social equality is widespread due to Christian doctrine which preaches that
    > we're all God's children and therefor equal in His eyes.'
    >
    > ad 1) Support for the idea that social equality is valuable varies between
    > individuals (and groups of individuals) as participation in 4th level
    > patterns of value requires a degree of choice. You have to 'learn' how to
    > use specific symbols and patterns of symbols to participate in 4th level
    > pat terns of value. (After having learned them, you don't need to be
    > constantly aware of them. You only have to use them sometimes in order not
    > to forget them.) Those choices (not necessarily very conscious choices) to
    > participate in a specific 4th level pattern of value (e.g. this doctrine)
    > is determined to some extent by individual and collective experience but is
    > also to some extent a free choice (the space where DQ reigns).
    >
    > ad 2) Not only those in authority (2nd type leaders, those whose leadership
    > is based on enforcement) do well to treat their followers to some extent
    > equally (except that they have to make a difference between those
    > supporting and those opposing their authority in order to stay in
    > authority...). Leaders of all 4 types (see
    > www.antenna.nl/wim.nusselder/schrijfsels/economics.htm chapter 4) have to
    > champion some equality. E.g. a monopolistic producer of computer operation
    > systems cannot afford to differentiate prices for the same product too much
    > between customers with different purchasing power (the normal way of
    > monopolists to maximize profit) or customers will start evading his
    > monopoly.
    >
    > ad 3) This Christian doctrine may be a factor, but certainly not the only
    > one. There are also Christian doctrines supporting social hierarchy...
    > There must have been some 3rd level sq (some equality works to maintain
    > groups) and DQ (selective use of Christian doctrines) involved too.

    Am I correct to interpret your response as agreement in general with my
    answers to your question of why the concept of "equality" arose?

    Thanks.

    Best,
    Platt

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