From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Fri Oct 08 2004 - 19:22:51 BST
platt:
As Godel showed, if religion requires belief in unprovable truth,
math is the only religion that can prove it's a religion.
msh says:
I seriously doubt that Godel said anything as silly as this, unless
he was going for laughs at some cocktail party. If belief in
unprovable truth is all that's required for a system of thought to be
a religion then, sure, science is a religion, math is a religion, and
the MOQ is a religion. But, as we all know, religion requires much
more than a belief in unprovable truth; it requires a belief in God.
msh said:
> Any attempt to draw some faith-based parallel between science and
> religion is doomed to failure if not fraud.
platt:
Godel's Theorem proves otherwise. If I have to choose between the
cogitations of MSH or Godel, I'm inclined to go with Godel. :-)
msh says:
This is your understanding of Godel's Theorem? That it shows a faith-
based parallel between science and religion? As suggested above, the
only thing the Theorem proves is that no deductive system is complete
in and of itself; that it must always be built upon propositions the
truth of which are undecidable within the system. Hardly the same as
a belief in God. Or even Godel. Or me.
Best,
msh
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