From: David Morey (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Mon Nov 01 2004 - 19:08:11 GMT
Do you associate this life force with DQ?
So if DQ leaves SQ in its wake why does it get
into conflict with its own products?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Platt Holden" <email@example.com>
To: <firstname.lastname@example.org>; <email@example.com>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: MD Where does quality reside?
> Hi David M:.
> You asked.
>> Would you say there is conflict between this
>> life force and SQ patterns?
> You bet.
>> >> msh writes:
>> >> > He then goes on to say that Quality, in fact, is the ultimate ONE,
>> >> > and
>> >> > that subjects and objects are created by it. This is the Quality
>> >> > that
>> >> > becomes the fundamental reality of the MOQ he attempts to define in
>> >> > LILA.
>> > P:
>> >> The ultimate ONE sounds God-like to me.
>> >> msh says:
>> >> Yes. Similar, I'd say, but without all those troublesome human
>> >> projections: Not loving or caring, but not hateful either, or
>> >> cunning or vengeful; without expectations or desire; without
>> >> opinions: no favored people or nations or baseball teams. Nothing to
>> >> kill or die for.
>> > Pirsig is clear that DQ (the creative side of Quality) does care and
>> > has
>> > a burning desire for -- freedom.
>> > "Dynamic Quality is the pre-intellectual cutting edge of realty, the
>> > source of all things, completely simple and always new. It was the
>> > moral
>> > force that had motivated the brujo in Zuni. It contains no pattern of
>> > fixed rewards and punishments. Its only perceived good is freedom and
>> > its
>> > only perceived evil is static quality itself-any pattern of one-sided
>> > fixed values that tries to contain and kill the ongoing free force of
>> > life." (Lila, 9)
>> > A moral force for freedom . . . something millions have died for, and
>> > continue to do so to this day.
>> > Platt
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