From: Platt Holden (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Mon Nov 01 2004 - 21:22:58 GMT
> msh says:
> Since I don't deny that there is plenty of perceiving and preferring, only
> that Quality itself doesn't perceive or prefer, I don't need to respond to
> the rest of your post.
Since DQ is a fundamental property of Quality and since DQ "perceives"
good (freedom) and evil (static quality), it follows that Quality
> platt said:
> Exactly. If Pirsig had meant the terms in question to be poetic he
> would have written a poem. Everyday prose, which Pirsig is thankfully
> partial to, constantly uses metaphorical expressions to promote
> msh says:
> Metaphor is poetry. If your understanding of poetry is that it is
> "writing just for emotional effect", and that it must be broken up
> into short lines that rhyme, then your understanding of poetry is
> next to non-existent.
My understanding of poetry exists in the Merriam-Webster Online
2 : writing that formulates a concentrated imaginative awareness of
experience in language chosen and arranged to create a specific emotional
response through meaning, sound, and rhythm
And who said anything about short lines that rhyme? Why do you make up
> As for the Lila passage you offer, thanks. I agree completely with
> the ideas presented there. Notice he nowhere says that Quality
> itself PREFERS or CHOOSES. Instead, he suggests that we sacks of SQ
> value patterns make choices in RESPONSE to quality.
But he does say Quality is a "creative force" which implies that it
prefers and chooses.
Metaphorically speaking, Quality isn't a volcano that periodically spews
out worthless heaps of hot rock. Rather it's the ground of being from
which spring such valuable things like -- oh say just for instance --
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