Re: MD Where does quality reside?

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Fri Nov 12 2004 - 20:45:17 GMT

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    Hi Ham,

    Physicist Paul Davies wrote:
    > > "The universe looks as if it is unfolding according to some plan or
    > > blueprint. The input is the cosmic initial conditions, and the output is
    > > organized complexity, or depth. The essential feature is that something
    > > of value emerges as the result of processing according to some ingenious
    > > pre-existing set of rules. These rules look as if they are the product
    > > of intelligent design. My own inclination is to suppose that qualities
    > > such as ingenuity, economy, beauty, and so on have a genuine transcendent
    > > reality -- they are not merely the product of human experience -- and
    > > that these qualities are reflected in the structure of the natural
    > > world."

    Ham:
    > That's very well stated, and isn't it interesting the he has used the terms
    > "essential feature", "intelligent design", "transcendent reality", and
    > "something of value" in this brief summation?

    Hadn't noticed, but your right. Thanks for pointing that out.

    Ham:
    > Man is a rational organic system in a reality that is essentially
    > non-rational. Reality encompasses him, but he cannot encompass reality.
    > All he can do is structure it in terms of his own rationality. This for
    > him is truth, and it suffices to get him through the organic process that
    > he calls life. The philospher wants something more. He seeks to liberate
    > his thinking from its rational bonds, but he lacks the necessary tools.
    > Only the mystic, it would seem, has the wisdom to transcend rationality and
    > reach a higher truth.

    Your summation is just as insightful and pithy as Davies's. Wonderful.

    > > Would you be amenable to the notion that your undifferentiated "essence"
    > > is the source of those transcendent qualities of which Mr. Davies and Mr.
    > > Pirsig speak?
    >
    > Absolutely!
     
    Great. Nice to know we're on the same page in this regard.

    Best,
    Platt

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