From: Dan Glover (daneglover@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Jan 24 2003 - 13:11:22 GMT
Hello everyone
>From: "Willy" <willy@rodo.nl>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
>Subject: MD Pirsig an artist - MoQ & love
>Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:41:52 +0100
>
>Hi,
>
>I read both Pirsig's books thoroughly and at the end of Lila I realised
>that Pirsig never ever mentions love. Now that's OK with me actually,
>but I believe that until now every artist has been acting around the
>theme 'Love'. Singers sing about it, artists paint it, poets write about
>it, etc.
>
>Does Pirsig not ever mention love?
Hi Willy
Lila, Bantam paperback, page 330 -- "If you really love people they'll kill
you for it. You have to hate them and then *pretend* you love them."
This quote builds to RMP's karmic discussions later in the book, his
mention of Jesus, Lincoln, and Ghandi (who it might be said all died for
love).
>Are you an artist if you never mention love?
Can a person be an artist and not love their art?
>I believe Pirsig is an artist. What is the solution?
>
>My question is not really whether or not Pirsig is an artist (maybe he
>isn't, the definition of artist is not the point here) but how love fits
>in the MoQ and what role it plays there.
>
>Some theses:
>- love equals quality *first dynamic, then static*
>- love is imagination, is not a value (or is this too subject-object
>orientated?)
>- love is like a person's free will; you believe in it but it doesn't
>exist. You call it love and you find reasons for it but actually it's
>just hormones and a simplistic pattern of biological value and I am
>really overreacting on this.
>
>Who else has theses?
In my opinion, like Dynamic Quality, love cannot be defined, so there is
little use in analyzing it. Love just is.
Dan
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