From: RycheWorld@aol.com
Date: Thu Dec 09 2004 - 16:07:42 GMT
MarshaV said:
"What I read in ZMM and Lila, was a new perspective. Quality! Wow!!!
Reading ZMM made me want to experience the wind in my face, and quality in my
actions.
But what is this? Here the same old questions are rehashed, over and over
and over, again. Can something new and different be discussed? How does one
choose a higher quality of life for themselves. How does one live as an
example for others? What high quality action can be taken to move our society
in a more high quality direction?
And how about some givens. Like theism is out. Buddhism is open to further
investigation. You name them, based on Mr. Pirsig's books of course."
MarshaV
Marsha and all,
As I have greatly enjoyed these postings and, more to the point,
learning so many things from all of you "highly intellectual" people (and I'll use
that term loosely!!! - HA!)) I do feel that the topic should progress.
Then again, thinking about what everyone has posted makes me come back
to one big circle on a different plane, if that makes any sense. When you
stated that the same topics are rehashed over and over I find that the reason
they are rehashed is because there's never a solidified answer!
Before reading ZMM I could have cared less about philosophy. Now, it's
changed my life. But I am constantly driven to "get" an answer and there never
seems to be. The more you think you have the answer a little question pops
into your head that creates 1,000 new questions!!! It is literally quite
maddening at times. Scary almost.
Anyway, I am not an intellectual, as I have stated on a post or two
before. (maybe someday!!!) But I will throw an answer to your questions out in my
"simple-minded terms".
1) A higher quality of life - shouldn't that be finding that DQ in
everything we do? For example, I have discovered that my Catholic faith has dissipated
and my "God" is now a "warm summer day on a motorcycle". NOT a motorcycle
itself, but the ride and what it does for my mind. So, the "ride" is actually a
static pattern but what the ride produces (happy, confident good-feeling
thoughts) is the DQ. Am I right about this?
2) Living as an example for others - are we supposed to do this? I mean,
isn't it the individual who finds someone else to be labeled as a "Good
example"? For them?
3) High Quality action that moves our society into a Quality direction...I
feel that, whether you think capitalism, communism, ...ism, it's almost
useless. "Our" society (USA) is, if anything, a "selfish" society. We preach
religion and morals yet we (majority?) live to make more money and have more
things. I think the USA hides behind the premise that we are the most giving
nation. Maybe that's true, financially. But, as discussed above, my Christian faith
began to dissolve when a perfectly ample church "had to have" a $1 million
revamp because during the Christmas masses there were too many people to fit
in the church, thus they had to share masses in the school gym. Doesn't the
bible talk of Jesus having masses in a cave?
Point being - I don't believe that our society is moving in a quality
direction, that if you mean it as helping your fellow man. There are too many
wants as opposed to needs. Top that off with our constant "We'll tell you
what's better for you" attitude, along with the all too present "Keeping up with
the Jones'" view we can only find Quality in material objects.
Your thoughts?
"Ryche"
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