From: Phaedrus Wolff (PhaedrusWolff@carolina.rr.com)
Date: Sat Jan 08 2005 - 00:37:33 GMT
Hi all,
How do I say this?
I can relate to the idea that a donation to the tsunami is not near enough
to solve the problems of the world. I have always said that you cannot
become poor enough, and you cannot suffer enough to take away the suffering
of the children of the world -- I still see this as true. You must heal the
world from within; starting with yourself, and allowing the Quality of your
actions to span out through those who see this Quality and pass it on to
someone else.
When I look at this offer from Ant' and Dan, I see how pathetic it is. I
don't see it as pathetic compared to what needs to be done -- I see it as
pathetic compared to what they have already done prior to the tsunami. What
they have done, is take an idea -- a DQ experience -- been affected by it,
and passed it on by writing a book/thesis.
You know you have gotten there when you plant a tree that will not bear
fruit in your lifetime. The devastation that hit due to the tsunami hit us
like a flash of lightening, so the outpouring of support was a natural
reaction, and was so dynamic because we didn't have time to think; we didn't
know it on a daily basis, and wonder what it is that we can do to solve it,
as it holds with the starving children and all in the world who are living
under a poverty we cannot even imagine, or under a suppressive regime that
their life is more torture than life.
Where I see Anthony's and Dan's real contribution to the tsunami is that it
is a contribution to the other tsunamis to come (analogy), and quite
possibly a contribution they will not see the effects of in their lifetime.
Their real contribution has to do with an idea that is offered that the
lives of those lost in the tsunami is a natural part of life -- called
death -- that should not be feared, and should not be viewed as a loss as it
is not a loss to the world. (sounds terrible, doesn't it?) Their death is a
contribution as much as their life was a contribution, and they weren't lost
in the long-term, just the short-term of the life on this earth as we know
it.
Most of all, thier's is a contribution that can tell a people that their
parents, children, brothers, sisters, and friends did not get denied access
to Heaven because they didn't stand on one foot, rub their belly, and pat
their head during their material life on this planet. It is an idea that
caring 'does' need to be felt and expressed on a daily basis. And it is an
idea that we are none superior to the other, and even there is no 'Other'.
As I do see their offer to share their book/thesis an act of sharing, of
caring, their real contribution was writing the book/thesis.
As this has gotten quite long already, I will not share examples of my own
family and community to support what I am saying. All I will say is that the
cure for the world is in how we view the world, and no monitory contribution
or even our physical assistance to the victims of the tsunami, or any other
devastations from man or nature throughout the world can come close to the
changing of the world through an idea whose time has come IMHO.
If the tsunami changed the way we view the people of other cultures, then
the tsunami was a Dynamic Quality event. The lives lost were not lost for
nothing, and the temporary suffering (even though it may seem to be never
ending) can be a turning point in time and space that could change the
future of our world as we view it; if we let it.
Oops. Saved by wifey. She's finally ready to go.
Chin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Glover" <daneglover@hotmail.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: MD Tsunami Disaster
> Hello everyone
>
> >From: "Mark Steven Heyman" <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com>
> >Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
> >To: moq_discuss@moq.org
> >Subject: Re: MD Tsunami Disaster
> >Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 06:29:43 -0800
> >
> >Hi Ant, Sam, Dan...
> >
> >I appreciate the thought and spirit behind Dan and Ant's offer, but
> >Sam makes a great point. I was tempted to say the same, but didn't
> >because I didn't want to appear to be downsizing Dan and Ant's
> >generosity, which I certainly am not.
> >
> >Since Sam has spoken up I feel obligated to support him. The
> >outpouring of sympathy and support for the tsunami victims has been
> >wonderful, but their plight is primarily due to unpreventable natural
> >disaster. The ongoing deaths from preventable disease and
> >malnutrition, not just in Africa but the world over, and most
> >inexecusably in the richest countries, amount to just about a tsunami
> >a day. We can donate money to ameliorate these problems; but, just
> >as important, we can work to change government/business policies that
> > contribute to these preventable disasters in the first place.
> >
>
> Hi guys, Sam, Platt, Mark, and all,
>
> If I ever get down on my luck and need a helping hand to get back up, at
> least I know where not to turn, right? Of course, I've always known that.
> Many years ago I found myself traveling on foot through northern
California.
> It was rainy and cold and I was ill-prepared. Having run out of cash and
> having not eaten for two days, I stopped at a Catholic church sitting hard
> by the ocean in a little town called Mendicino, hoping for a meal and
> perhaps a place to sleep for the night. The only person at the church was
an
> old custodian. After telling him my story, he welcomed me inside and gave
me
> what must have been his lunch. I still remember what it was--a tuna
> sandwich. It was very good and the church was warm and dry. Not long
after,
> a priest arrived. He seemed quite shocked to see me sitting there eating a
> sandwich and, after giving the custodian a dirty look, promptly showed me
> the door. I found my sanctuary for the night in an abandoned house down
the
> street. Having no blanket, I still find it amazing how just a tuna
sandwich
> in the belly can keep a person warm. That's a true story.
>
> Anyway, I cannot save the world, I'll leave that to you guys. But my offer
> still stands.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
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