MD Pure experience and the Kantian problematic

From: Ant McWatt (antmcwatt@hotmail.co.uk)
Date: Tue Feb 08 2005 - 21:41:12 GMT

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    Scott Roberts stated to David Buchanan February 7th 2005:

    >Your post is all about recognizing other forms of attaining knowledge. I
    >agree with all that, and have never said otherwise. But as so often, you do
    >not read what I say, but go off on a tangent to provide support for
    >something that I do not dispute. I just, like Wilber, think that the word
    >"empirical" should be restricted to the form of attaining knowledge
    >"grounded in sensory experience", and not extended to those other forms.

    Scott,

    Why should the term "empirical" be highlighted for special treatment out of
    the countless terms employed in philosophy and philosophology in various
    contexts?

    I'm just thinking of Northrop's (and Pirsig's assertion!) that what ever
    particular term you use for a concept isn't critical as long as you define
    clearly what you understand by it.

    Possibly, following David, we should use Pirsig's understandings of
    particular terms when on a Pirsig Discussion group (rather than Wilber or
    whoever) otherwise we will be talking over each other?

    Yours pragmatically,

    Anthony.

    ‘The philosophically important thing about any common-sense term as it
    enters into any philosophical theory is not its bare dictionary meaning, but
    the particular contextual meaning usually unique to the philosophical system
    in question. [For instance] philosophical materialists, idealists, dualists
    and neutral monists all admit the existence of what common sense denotes by
    the term ‘mind,’ yet there is all the difference in the world in the ways in
    which they analyze and conceive of this datum.’ (Northrop, 1947, p.80)

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