From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Thu May 12 2005 - 22:11:17 BST
Hi Mike,
Welcome to the MD. You raise an excellent point:
> According to Lila, Dynamic Quality has driven the evolution of inorganic
> patterns into biological, social and intellectual patterns. To me, this
> doesn't tally with ZMM's central thesis that pure (Dynamic) Quality is the
> flux of pre-intellectual awareness supplied by our senses. I accept that
> social and intellectual patterns "filter" our experience into something
> more static and less bewildering, but surely our senses are a *biological
> pattern*, and also filter the Quality reality, before the social and
> intellectual patterns get involved.
Pirsig addressed your point in his paper, "Subjects, Objects, Data and
Values" (SODV) as follows:
"In the third box are the biological patterns: senses of touch, sight
hearing, smell and taste. The Metaphysics of Quality follows the empirical
tradition here in saying that the senses are the starting point of
reality, but -- all importantly -- it includes a sense of value. Values
are phenomena. To ignore them is to misread the world. It says this sense
of value, of liking or disliking, is a primary sense that is a kind of
gatekeeper for everything else an infant learns. At birth this sense of
value is extremely Dynamic but as the infant grows up this sense of value
becomes more and more influenced by accumulated static patterns. In the
past this biological sense of value has been called the "subjective"
because there values cannot be located in an external physical object. But
quantum theory has destroyed the idea that only properties located in
external physical objects have reality."
Hope this helps. I'm sure others will welcome you and have something to
add.
Best,
Platt
You can read the complete paper by going to mog.org, clicking Forum at the
top of the page, then Index of Essays, then the SODV paper under Pirsig.
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