Re: MD Our Immoral Supreme Court

From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Fri Jul 01 2005 - 20:11:09 BST

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    On 1 Jul 2005 at 12:39, hampday@earthlink.net wrote:

    Our material possessions are no more than appropriated articles that
    can be transferred to other individuals at the end of our life-
    experience. They are consigned to us by virtue of our labor,
    payment, or inheritance.

    msh asks:
    Is it your contention that all material possessions are acquired by
    virtue of one's labor, payment, or inheritance? If not, please
    reformulate your statement to reflect the reality of unearned wealth.

    ham:
    There is no greed implied in such transactions. All that is required
    is the willingness to work for what we have.

    msh asks:
    How is inherited wealth accounted for in terms of the recipient's
    willingness to work for what he gets?

    ham:
    Material goods earned for contributions to society are a measure of
    our individual freedom. Capitalism is not based on greed; it's the
    enlightenend concept of being rewarded commensurate with our
    productivity and talent.

    msh:
    Allow me to repeat myself from a previous post, and ask some
    questions:

    Suppose someone patents a life-saving drug with the intention of
    maximizing profits for himself. What contribution to society is
    made by denying the drug to people who are unable to meet his price?

    What contribution to society is being rewarded when the holder of a
    community's water rights is able to extort top dollar from those who
    can pay while denying water to those who can't?

    Suppose a CEO is able to secure a million dollar bonus because he
    reduced disposal costs by dumping toxic waste onto public lands. What
    contribution to society is being rewarded?

    ham:
    To assert that the individual has no "right" to material possessions
    because they are properties of some external "authority" is
    nonsensical. So is the idea of "selflessness". "Each according to
    his ability, to each according to his need"? Anyone who falls for
    that Marxist line doesn't know the value of human life. That's pure
    Collectivism, and it's where Chomsky and his fellow nihilists would
    dearly like to take us. I sincerely hope that no one here is reading
    that ideology into the MoQ.

    msh:
    Please provide Chomsky quotes, with references to original texts, in
    support of your statement that NC is a nihilist. Where is it that
    you believe "Chomsky and his fellow nihilists" would like to take us?
    Please develop this idea, and provide textual support for your
    position.

    Mark Steven Heyman (msh)

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