Re: MD Intellect as Consciousness

From: hampday@earthlink.net
Date: Sun Jul 24 2005 - 18:46:16 BST

  • Next message: Mark Steven Heyman: "Re: MD MOQ and The Moral Society"

    Platt --

    Just a quick follow-up to my earlier post.

    According to your friend at nerdshit.com ...
    "There are basically just three realistic views about the relation of
    mentality and physicality materialism (or mechanism), dualism and
    panexperientialism. ... Materialism is the monistic doctrine that all that
    exists is matter; if the word consciousness is used it refers to physical
    and chemical processes going on in the brain. ...
    Dualism says there are two sort of entities, matter and mind--the central
    problem for dualists is how mind and matter relate to each other. ...
    Panexperientialism is a monistic doctrine that claims that mentality and
    physicality are two aspects of the same phenomenon. ...This is the doctrine
    of internal relations. It destroys the notion of material substances and
    substitutes that of an event. In some sense the word experience or feeling
    is relevant at all levels from protons to people. ..."

    There must be at least four such "realistic views" then, since Essentialism
    claims that "mentality and physicality" are two phenomena of a "monistic"
    Essence, not (as Panexperientialism puts it) "two aspects of a phenomenon".

    Apparently, like Mr. Pirsig before him, Mr. Nerdshit would have us believe
    that the primary source is an "event", and that experience and feeling are
    properties of protons and people. This is also Kauffman's view, and I
    suspect yours as well; but it is not mine. Absolute Essence is not a
    "relation", it is immutably One.

    Thanks for this website reference, though -- it's fascinating.

    Regards,
    Ham

    MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org
    Mail Archives:
    Aug '98 - Oct '02 - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/
    Nov '02 Onward - http://www.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/summary.html
    MD Queries - horse@darkstar.uk.net

    To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at:
    http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html



    This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.5 : Mon Jul 25 2005 - 00:18:56 BST