From: ian glendinning (psybertron@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Jul 31 2005 - 03:14:43 BST
Thanks for noticing that point Sam, I actually posted it about 5 times
in different parts of the threads that picked-up on Cold-Fusion, but
no-one else responded.
The trouble with memes is people only see the easy to understand bits
"cold-fusion was a fake" even though it could very well be the
opposite of truth.
On honesty ... clearly I agree with you ... any quips about dishonesty
being the better course are from my bag of tricks calleed "many a true
word spoken in jest". That said, the truth of the matter is honesty of
intent, not some semantically interpreted honesty in the syntax we use
(what we say).
Rhetoric is absolutely essential in this sea of highly un-Zen logic.
The linguistic "truth" is always bent to make an honest point (or a
dishonest one - there's the rub).
Ian
On 7/30/05, Sam Norton <elizaphanian@kohath.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Ian,
>
> > I say, but like most people (me included) your understanding is based
> > on urban myth, a malicious meme, promulgated by scientists with
> > something to lose, not by Pons and Fleischmann. I very recently
> > blogged on this very topic.
> > http://www.psybertron.org/?p=1026
> > There is every sign their material is and always was reproducible, and
> > that the sceptics were those engaging in deception.
>
> I stand corrected on Pons and Fleischmann. Fascinating stuff, thanks very
> much for pointing it out. However, the lecturer seems to agree with me that
> scientific truth is dependent upon honesty to be perceived: "the evidence
> that changes minds is often quite ordinary: what is of relevance is the
> psychological factors that may inhibit acceptance of the evidence."
>
> > Nice to have you back BTW - I thinkl we have some unfinished business :-)
>
> Do we? Let's get back to it then!
>
> Cheers
> Sam
>
>
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