From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Sun Aug 14 2005 - 17:39:28 BST
Hi Ian, Ant, Sam, Horse, Davids M and H, et al,
Ya wanna know what I think? Here's what...
Do you Brits know how many keystrokes you waste, year after year,
typing words like "humour", "labour", "behaviour?" My guess is it's
directly related to the melting of the polar ice caps.
And don't even get me started on the "s" rather than "z" thing.
Best,
Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
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On 14 Aug 2005 at 14:42, ian glendinning wrote:
Look Mark (me old mate ;-) )
This one's deadly serious - no joking.
I know you set this thread up as a challenge to Platt.
Let me cut to the issue (for me).
What makes a good debate / argument / case ?
In this case you are about to trade stereotypical (right wing)
Hollywood expressions of US macho dominance, with whatever left wing
propaganda Platt throws back at you. You're all ears, we can't wait.
Anyone keeping score ?
In another thread you said - I deal in tightly reasoned logic, not ad
hominem attacks, and I wouldn't dispute that.
What I would argue is than NEITHER trading stereotypical propaganda,
NOR tightly reasoned logic are high quality arguments for MoQ-Discuss.
This is where I came in on MoQ-Discuss, 3 years ago ?, mainly arguing
with DM, DMB and Platt as I recall - that tightly reasoned logic was
the problem that MoQ was trying to break / fix. There are better
quality arguments to be had, rhetoric and humour for a start, but it's
the whole Zen half of the story that's missing.
Was it Marsha or Erin who asked "Where is the Zen ?"
For some arguments numbers and logic are the worst tools. Geddit ?
I'll stop there for effect ;-)
(Either that or quote "The Cornflowers" again.)
Ian
On 8/13/05, Mark Steven Heyman <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com> wrote:
> On 13 Aug 2005 at 8:32, Platt Holden wrote:
> Now if you want to talk about the influence of Hollywood per Pirsig
> and the way directors, producers and writers slip leftist propaganda
> into movies, I'm all ears.
>
> msh:
> Ok. Gimme an example of leftist propaganda in a "Hollywood" movie.
> Please include quotes and references. For every example you come up
> with, I'll find a hundred supporting anti-labor or military jingoist
> bullshit like "On the Waterfront", "The Green Berets" or, more
> recently, "Hanoi Hilton", "Top Gun," "Red Dawn" or anything written
> by Tom Clancy, or just about anything starring Sylvester Stallone,
> Bruce Willis, Arnold Schwarzenegger.
>
> As you say, bring it on. This will be fun. I love da movies. I
> love books more, but movies, apparently, are more accessible to
> people who haven't figgered out how to get a library card.
>
> Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
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