From: Scott R (jse885@spinn.net)
Date: Sun Mar 02 2003 - 01:55:35 GMT
DMB, Wim, et al,.
Well, I keep telling you all that Owen Barfield nailed this question (the
what, when, where, and even the why of the emergence of the intellectual
from the social), in his book Saving the Appearances: A Study in Idolatry.
And yes it was in Greece with the pre-Socratics, i.e., about 500 BC. One
difference, though, is that for him the intellectual level (which he calls
alpha-thinking) is thinking about anything, while thinking about thinking
(beta-thinking) is just another subject matter. Before the emergence of the
intellectual level, there wasn't "thinking about", and so no SOT. Ideas were
felt as coming from the gods, not something internal.
- Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Buchanan" <DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org>
....
> On top of all that, Pirsig puts the emergence of the intellectual level,
as
> such, in the lap of Socrates, just 2,500 years ago. I suppose most serious
> people would agree that something important happened at that point and it
> seems to me that Pirsig is only trying to say precisely what it is.
>
> Thanks for your time,
> DMB
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