From: C.L. Everett (seaelle@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Sep 10 2005 - 01:31:44 BST
Arlo--
First, I really appreciate that you are so patient with Platt. It's
an admirable quality and as taxing as he is I'm glad he's here. I
don't exactly know why. Maybe it's an adrenaline thing. Would that
be "strictly biological"?
On 9/8/05, Arlo Bensinger <ajb102@psu.edu> wrote:
> All,
> To restate my entire premise, then, what you call the "individual" I say
> refers to the "social individual", which is formed by the collectivization
> of "biological individuals" (language, symbolic semiosis, all that jazz).
> From the collective formations of social individuals emerge "intellectual
> individuals" (math, MOQ, science, etc.).
I'm with you. Goody and Watt call the individual a pampliset "composed
of layers of beliefs belonging to different stages in historical
time". I think of a pampliset as a text (we are ONLY read here,
except for those few of you who have met F2F) which has been written
over and erased (like a chalkboard) time and time again predominately
by "kultur".
I use the idea of a space between that contains the individuals into a
collective. It's all around us, we can't see it but it contains and
connects everything. David Bohm calls the world of both the
implicate-explicate order. It enfolds and unfolds continuously but
there is no real separation between the one and the many, the tree and
the soil, the individual and the collective.
>Cripes, we ain't even talking politics!
> Let the propaganda go, Platt, let it go.
He won't, he won't, he won't. Platt brings insult and politics into
everything. He is really little more to me, at this point, than a
"name caller". I'll bet if we did a simple search of the posts in the
last year looking for "you liberals" or "you lefties" or "you
Marxists" or "liberals like you", or "people like you" we'd find out
two things. Platt would be the majority poster of those lines and the
subject would always be about current politics, not the MOQ. Pirsig
would call him a "political reactionary" and would set up a character
like Platt to be the straw man he took down at the knees. That's why
I still wonder . . . hmmmmm.
C.L.
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