From: Joe (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed Jul 16 2003 - 17:55:12 BST
On 15 July 12:11 PM Matt P K writes:
Matt:
Absolutely. When Pirsig says "harmony" I think he's saying the same thing
as when Rorty says "coherence".
However, I think you've missed my emphasis. I'm not sure what "objective
rationality" is supposed to mean. After all, I take "objective" to mean
"intersubjective". But, my emphasis was not on the inner workings of any
particular community in finding coherence or harmony, but in the individual
person, as when I said, "coherence with your other intellectual patterns,"
emphasis on "your". And I believe I was referring to "gut" feelings when I
said, "An initial feeling of low Quality is that first impulse of
incoherence, and vice versa for high Quality."
Hi Matt, Platt,
joe: "coherence with your other intellectual patterns" feels right. My DNA
generated awareness can be filled with many patterns, and there are many
more in memory. If I accept the relativity of 'existence', 'purpose', and
'dq', then sq patterns can be composed of unrelated aspects. The
'coherence' feels right when the sq patterns are composed of related
aspects. I have an intuitive sense of the moral orders, and the 'coherence'
is my conscience. As much as Platt hates 'intuitive intellect', I can see
no other formulation. An 'intuited' sq pattern intellect would not be
coherent. The intuition of my 'awareness' has a word 'I' to describe it,
but this word I also describes a pattern of how I see myself and how others
see me. I am very much influenced by the way I was educated.
Joe
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