From: Joe (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Fri Aug 08 2003 - 19:57:40 BST
On 7 August 2003 1:19 AM Bo writes:
Bo:
Namely the "mechanism" that Pirsig touches on in LILA that all levels resist
an outgrowths from themselves even if is a Quality growth, they only see
corruption of own value: A biological organism just wants to live not to
give its life for the good of the group. Society doesn't like anyone
questioning their pillars be it religious faith or national interests, and
now Intellect panics to see one of the its "ideas" degrading it from the
noble position of thinking which enables it to contain all existence. And
you all seem only too eager to serve intellect's interest.
Hi Bo, David B, Rick B, and all,
I think of a pattern, the law of inertia. I apply inertia to intellect by
analogy, since inertia is derived from the inorganic order. And I see "now
Intellect panics."
I define intellect: "I know what I am doing." I am certain. Why should I
distinguish between 'knowing' and 'doing' to express certainty? I want to
add something to the sentence: "I don't know what I am doing." I add
'intellect.' Is there an undefined intellect, and a pattern intellect?
I examine the plot of the story "Lila". In a patterned way Lila does not
know what she is doing. She is sort of going with the flow. On another
level both Rigel's and the Author's actions are directly determined by what
Lila is doing. There is plenty of undefined intellect in Lila's behavior,
she doesn't pay any attention to it. I can make another do what I want by
force. I am a predator. I can make another act in my interest by an
undefined element in my behavior, the quality of rhetoric, the quality of
what I have made of myself. The undefined is present in all the orders even
the inorganic. I find gravity hard to define.
I think of the moving forces of the inorganic order, gravity, weak nuclear,
strong nuclear, electromagnetic. I think of a dynamic movement to the
organic order. I can say that somehow the organic follows its own goal to
survive. It has a 'purpose', a direction of its own. I add undefined
purpose to the moving forces of the inorganic. I try to speak of 'purpose'
as a pattern in the moving forces of the inorganic order, and I feel
ridiculous. I keep 'purpose' undefined, and I talk about evolution.
I manipulate patterns in my individual awareness. I reverse the undefined
aspects.. IMO this is a part of an artistic touch that Squonk appeals to.
My dog has fleas! My flea has dogs! The reversal is nonsense, it doesn't
always work.
Is my ability to manipulate undefined aspects in patterns in my awareness an
ability of intellect? I ponder gorillas. They love each other (an emotinal
connection). Can they speak about their love creatively, associating
different purpose or qualities to the other they know and love? Oh! go fly
a kite! IMO they don't grunt so specifically.
I think it is true that my intellect panics. If I can keep my Intellect to:
I know what I am doing!, I won't have to examine the reasons for my angst.
I must train myself to think, feel, sense what I am doing!
Joe
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