From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Sat Aug 09 2003 - 22:05:56 BST
Platt said to dmb:
...................And yes, you do dream of communist or socialist
"plans for intellectual control of society" with yourself and other
self-appointed intellectuals in charge of some bureaucracy telling
people how they ought to think and behave because you and the rest of
your elitist intellectual friends know best.
dmb says:
Darn! You've exposed my plot to take over the world. My elitist friends and
I have always known that the path to absolute power would include years of
philosophizing at moq.org. (dark, diabolical laughter.) Now that most of the
subscribers have been converted to communisitic socialism, self-appointed
intellectuals like us were ready to use them to staff our oppresive
bureaucracy. (sadistic, sinister laughter - with cavernous echoes.) But now
that you've used your extraordinary abilities to find and expose our evil
secrets and conspiracies, we'll have to come up with an another plan. Darn!
Or maybe you've exposed something else - like your own anti-intellectual
attitudes and feelings of inferiority, perhaps? Whatever the reason,
comments like this are obviously way over the top. You're free to try to
make your case more convincing. You can even hurl insults, but neither will
be effective if you insist on incorporating your paranoid delusions and
fearful fantasies. Nonsense like this only makes me question your grip on
reality and it has a way of skirting the issues too.
Here are some Pirsigisms on the issue...
"The advent of of both democratic and communistic socialism and the fascist
reaction to them has been the consequence of this earthquake" P266 (fall of
Victorians is the fall of social level)
"The hurricane of social forces released by the overthrow of society by
intellect was most strongly felt in Europe, ..where Communism and socialism,
programs for intellectual control over society, were confronted by the
reactionary forces of fascism, a program for the social control of
intellect." P274
"The New Deal was many things, but at the center of it all was the belief
that intellectual planning by the government was necessary for society to
regain its health. ...it was also a new deal for the intelllectuals of
America." P274
"It's not that Victorian social economic patterns are more moral than
socialist intellectual economic patterns. Quite the opposite. They are LESS
moral as static patterns go." P221
Thanks.
dmb
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