From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Thu Oct 30 2003 - 19:10:52 GMT
Wim
Sounds good to me, any particular reading inspires your views?
regards
David M
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From: "Wim Nusselder" <wim.nusselder@antenna.nl>
To: "MD" <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:21 PM
Subject: MD economics of want and greed 6
> WHAT SHOULD THE ECONOMY BE, ALTERNATIVE VIEW
>
> The best available way to organize that people get what they want is
> obviously by maximizing the fourth form of economy, organization by shared
> goals and interests, and minimizing organization by 'given'
characteristics,
> by coercion and by dependence.
> The maximum extent of organization by shared goals depends on the
complexity
> of identity people can achieve. Everyone at least has to think about which
> groups they want to belong to and more people than in 'earlier' types of
> societies have to be (ideological) leaders themselves to organize these
> choices.
> Leaders and followers should not be separate 'classes' of people, however,
> even though the distinction is necessary to enable the pooling of
resources,
> division of labour, specialization, economies of scale etc.. Separation
> breeds discontent among the 'following class'.
>
> The type of want that is bred by quaternary economy, not to be brainwashed
> into wanting what other people
> want you to want, can only be satisfied by educating people to grow more
> complex identities and be more conscious of what we do. Educational
> institutions as we know them now won't do, however. At present educational
> institutions are among the institutions most characterized by the
> distinction between leaders (teachers) and followers (pupils). They are
much
> better at making people accept brainwashing and become habitual
'followers'
> than at helping them to do without. We will have to re-invent 'education'
if
> we want it to free people from brainwashing.
>
> I'm not sure whether the organizing principle of quaternary economy
(shared
> goals and interests) has to change to solve the brainwashing problem.
> Probably only if we allow the distinction between leaders and followers to
> escalate into a full-scale class-division. At the moment no other
organizing
> principle is anywhere in
> (my) sight. A possible candidate derives from the ability of (some) people
> to 'participate' in each other's thoughts and experiences and to
experience
> being an indistinguishable and inseparable part of whole. Who can feel
> brainwashed if one's brain is experienced as inseparable from that of
> others?
>
> Highly complex identities imply that people can feel connected with a lot
of
> different types of other people and at a lot of different levels of
> aggregation (local, regional, national, global). That enables maximal
> pooling of resources, division of labour, specialization, economies of
scale
> etc. without necessitating uniformization of wants for everyone. Everyone
> can belong to a unique set of groups and communities that all organize
> satisfaction of different wants.
> Being more conscious of what they do enables people to plan and organize
> their world themselves into a more meaningful whole, into a world ever
> closer to what they want. Conscious action reduces involuntary dependence
on
> others.
>
> [to be continued]
>
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