From: Steve Peterson (peterson.steve@verizon.net)
Date: Mon Dec 15 2003 - 19:59:39 GMT
Hi Platt,
>> Jon said:
>> Iraqi Freedom will go down in the history books as the most moral war in
>> human history. ... A kind of universal joint has been shifted, creating one
>> of those rare seismic jolts that history rarely notes more than once a
>> century or even once a millennium. ... Never in their wildest dreams did
>> the Founding Fathers, those men who liberated America from a Tyrant,
>> imagine that one day the children of their Freedom, children of their
>> struggle for Dynamic Quality, would cross a mighty ocean to free the people
>> of Babylon from a Tyrant. I think they'd be proud. I know I am.
>>
>> dmb says:
>> The apocalyptic grandiosity of your comments reveals an irrational and
>> mythic view of things, gents. I'm amazed that anyone buys into Bush's
>> religious "rid the world of evil" rhetoric, let alone grown men who are
>> interesting in philosophy, the love of wisdom.
Platt said:
> I'm amazed that anyone interested in philosophy, especially the MOQ with
> its major premise of freedom being the highest good, would come to the
> defense of the likes of Mao, Stalin, Hitler and Saddam.
Steve:
Since DMB generally only posts on weekends, I'll come to his defense. I
have never heard DMB say anything good about Mao, Stalin, Hitler, or Saddam.
I guess it is not surprising that those who criticize the "with us or
against us" rhetoric would be lumped in with those "against us." On the
other hand, it *is* surprising to see this behavior in a philosophy
discussion group.
Regards,
Steve
"Our National Dialogue on Terrorism" From Al Franken's new book:
Why do they hate us?
"They hate us because they are evil."
Thatıs it, huh? Thatıs the entire story?
"Yes. Theyıre evil and they hate us because of our freedoms."
I know theyıre evil. I was just thinking that maybe if we
understood what specifically seemed to trigger the
"Why are you apologizing for the terrorists?"
Iım not. Theyıre evil. You have no quarrel there. Itıs just
that maybe if we understoo
"Why are you on the terroristsı side?"
Iım not! I hate the terrorists. I was just saying that we might
be able to prevent the next
"Three thousand Americans are dead. How can you defend al Qaeda?"
Believe me, I was not defending them. What they did was horrific
and inexcusable. Theyıre evil. I was just
"Then why are you apologizing for them?"
Iım not. Iım trying to say that maybe there are lessons we can
"Why do you hate America?"
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