RE: Re: MD An atheistic system?

From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Sat Feb 21 2004 - 03:09:08 GMT

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    Platt, Steve and all bible thumpin' hicks:

    Platt said:
    To label Christians as "idiots" because they doubt the Darwin story of
    evolution appears to me to demonize a large segment of the population.
    I'm surprised by your insensitivity. I'm sure you wouldn't like to have
    your concepts called "idiotic." ...that doesn't give you the right to
    verbally abuse others who hold different beliefs. Where is the hallowed
    "sensitivity" we hear so much about that supposedly occupies the moral high
    ground? ...Hardly an expression of tolerance and inclusiveness.

    dmb says:
    Sensitivity? Tolerance and inclusiveness? The high moral ground? Oh, did I
    say "childish and idiotic"? Sorry, what I should have said was hopelessly
    stupid, evil, ignorant, uneducated, ultra-right-wing, fanatical, vicious
    bigoted hillbillies. I should have said all that, but someone beat me to
    it....

    "That was entirely within one code - the social code. Phaedrus thought that
    code was good enough as far as it went, but it really didn't go anywhere. It
    didn't know its origins and it didn't know its own destinations, and not
    knowing them it had to be exactly what it was: hopelessly static, hopelessly
    stupid, a form of evil in itself. Evil. ..If he'd called it that 150 years
    ago he might have gotten himself into some real trouble. ..But today its
    hardly a risk. Its more a cheap shot.Everybody thinks those Victorian moral
    codes are stupid and evil, or old-fashioned at least, except maybe for a few
    religious fundamentalists and ultra-right-wingers and ignorant uneducated
    people like platt." LILA end of ch 13

    "It was this issue of intellect vs society that made the Scopes trial of
    1925 such a journalistic sensation. In that trial a Tennessee schoolteacher,
    John Scopes, was chaged with illegally teaching Darwinian evoluion. ...But
    in 1925 his lawyer, Clarence Darrow was just taking easy shot at a toothless
    tiger. Only religious fanatics and ignorant Tennessee hillbillies opposed
    the teaching of evolution. ...Church bigots, pillars of society who for
    centuries had viciously attacked and defamed intellectuals who disagreed
    with them, were now getting some of it back." LILA ch 22

    dmb continues:
    My point here is NOT that its sometimes appropriate to use harsh language,
    although that's true enough. My point is that this is no mere name calling.
    There is a reason Pirsig views the beliefs of religious fanatics as stupid
    and evil. He'trying to say something substantial and so was I. So, please
    Platt, rather than amuse us with phony PC indignation why not address the
    actual issues? Why not explain why its stupid and evil? Or why you think its
    smart and good? Why strike a silly pose when you can take the dabate
    seriously?

    Thanks,
    dmb

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