Re: MD secular humanism and dynamic quality

From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Thu Mar 25 2004 - 18:52:29 GMT

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    Hi Sam

    You may be interested in the analytical philosopher
    Arthur Gibson and his book God and the Universe
    where he shows how the language of post-modernism,
    theology and astro-physics have much in common.

    regards
    David M

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    From: "Sam Norton" < >
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    Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 8:15 AM
    Subject: Re: MD secular humanism and dynamic quality

    > Hi Matt,
    >
    > > Matt:
    > > Well, the problem I have with conceding that "it is at least _prima
    facie_ plausible that there
    > will come a time when the Dynamic evolution of secular humanism requires a
    reconsideration of its
    > basic tenets" is a legitimate objection is that I don't see it as an
    objection. I simply agree with
    > you and fail to see why I shouldn't be able to.
    >
    > I think you've slightly misunderstood what I'm driving at. I didn't think
    you'd disagree with the
    > 'basic tenets' point, so I was wanting to drive you towards explaining the
    language that secular
    > humanism provides to enable that Dynamic evolution of the basic tenets.
    Which essentially you've
    > answered by saying 'free speech' (which I think is right). Yet, on the
    other hand, on pragmatic
    > grounds, you rule out religiously grounded criticisms of secular humanism,
    so in effect you're
    > saying that "secular humanism can evolve through free speech (except
    religious free speech)".
    >
    > What I really want you to explain is how you distinguish the sort of
    language which religious
    > criticisms of secular humanism might use, from those sorts of language
    which are necessary for
    > allowing the Dynamic evolution of secular humanism. It seems to me that
    they're the same sort of
    > language. In other words, the sort of 'basic tenets' criticism of secular
    humanism is _of necessity_
    > something like religious speech. Different vocabularies between the
    different religions (or even the
    > MoQ), but a distinct family resemblance - and it's that family resemblance
    which I'm getting at,
    > which I think you have disallowed with your pragmatic boundaries. Or is
    your boundary more
    > fine-grained than I'm appreciating?
    >
    > Does that make sense?
    >
    > Sam
    >
    >
    >
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