Fwd: MD "biological" crime

From: Adam Watt (adamwatt@mac.com)
Date: Wed Jun 09 2004 - 00:38:54 BST

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    A reminder for you Platt. Didn't get a response the last time...

    > From: Adam Watt <adamwatt@mac.com>
    > Date: Thu Jun 3, 2004 9:57:09 pm Europe/London
    > To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    > Subject: Re: MD "biological" crime
    >
    >
    > On Thursday, June 3, 2004, at 05:24 pm, Platt Holden wrote:
    >
    >> Hi Adam,
    >>
    >>> ..when infact whenever you are confronted with a point you cannot
    >>> answer, you simply ignore it.
    >>
    >> Yes, I tend to ignore those whose main arguments are "you are a narrow
    >> minded old man" and a "rambling fool." Thanks for proving my point
    >> about
    >> leftists resorting to personal attacks because they have nothing of
    >> value
    >> to offer.
    >>
    >> Regards,
    >> Platt
    >>
    >>
    > Hello Platt,
    >
    > Well. it may seem a bit harsh, so sorry if your offended.. borne of
    > frustration you might say.. but at least I got a response this time!
    > Even if it still doesn't answer the question. Why is that? Also,
    > hardly my main arguments were they? Or indeed, my arguments at all..
    > lets see again shall we? -
    >
    >>>> MSH asks:
    >>>>
    >>>>> The question remains: Why is killing 3000 civilians in NYC an act
    >>>>> of terror, while killing 10000 civilians in Iraq is not? Try to
    >>>>> answer, without calling Rush Limbaugh please.
    >
    > A fair question, Platt does not respond. So...
    >
    > AW writes -
    >
    >>> Hello - It says.. TRY TO ANSWER PLEASE. You didn't. Again. Also,
    >>> people are not germs, not in the MOQ, or anywhere bar perhaps rabid
    >>> right-wing rhetoric...
    >
    > Still no response, above Platt claims he does not respond to posts he
    > finds offensive (basically stated). No offense here that I can see,
    > STILL not even an attempt at a coherent response, or any for that
    > matter.. so.. -
    >
    > AW writes again (provoked slightly by Platts own description of anyone
    > who enjoys the work of Chomsky as 'Chomsky worshippers'.. Pot calling
    > kettle, etc.. anyway YET AGAIN, I attempt to get a response (perhaps
    > you can see where the frustration is coming from?) -
    >
    > ..Infact, your looking quite incapable of a response, for the third
    > time of asking.. Ironic that you mention 'weakness of arguments' in
    > your previous
    > post :
    >
    > Platt - 'But, be not intimidated, as I'm sure you're not. It's simply
    > a sign of the
    > weakness of their arguments.'
    >
    > AW-
    > ..when infact whenever you are confronted with a point you cannot
    > answer, you simply ignore it. Pretty damn weak I'd say. As far as I
    > can see your criticising someone you haven't even read, and therefore
    > have absolutely NO IDEA what you are talking about. Which makes you a
    > narrow minded old man whos opinions are about as credible as the WMD
    > claims your beloved neo-conservative administration used to manipulate
    > your populace in to justifying an otherwise untenable invasion.
    >
    > (please note: description cited originally by Platt "narrow minded old
    > man' is provisional on the grounds of him making criticism of Chomsky
    > without having read his work. Still no claim to having had read it has
    > been made, so I provisionally I stand by it. Narrow minded this
    > indeed is, perhaps the age reference was unnecessary, but still it's
    > true. Its only offensive if you want it to be. And certainly it's not
    > 'my main arguments'. What do you 'have to offer')
    >
    > Yourself, and Robert.M, so it seems. are content to make totally
    > unfounded allegations against Chomsky.. I ask you AGAIN - what have
    > you read of his? I suspect nothing. Correct me if I'm wrong. Either
    > way, if you wish to refute anything he's said, you need to quote
    > whatever that may be in context, and then state what you refutation
    > is. Otherwise, sorry, but you just come across as a rambling fool.
    >
    > (note also : I said that you Platt comes across as a rambling fool in
    > attacking work he apparently has not even read. And that is how I see
    > it. If that is wrong I asked you to correct me. You declined to do so.
    > So, I can only conclude that you have not read Chomsky, yet feel it
    > worthwhile to criticise his work. That you haven't read. Would you
    > really disagree that being critical of something your unaware of is
    > stupid behaviour?..)
    >
    > You've avoided the above question, the 'critics' of Chomsky you cited
    > were of no significance.. etc etc etc..
    >
    > AW adds -
    >
    > ..you have (avoided the question), so I write this to clear up the
    > apparent confusion of my intentions, and the nature of my argument.
    > The nature is this - Criticising someones work indirectly, and
    > seemingly without knowledge of it, is pointless. To correct you -
    > THAT IS THE MAIN ARGUMENT. Again, you need to quote (in context
    > please), and refute your chosen quotation, otherwise, these rabid
    > posts amount to exactly what I said - rambling foolishness. So, I ask
    > you in all politeness, please consider discontinuing with these sorry
    > snipes at Chomskys work, or else approach your critique in the
    > aforementioned manner. Better yet, consider reading his work before
    > judging. And please consider explaining this...
    >
    > 'Why is killing 3000 civilians in NYC an act of terror, while 10000 in
    > iraq is not'
    >
    > I look forward to your reply.
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Adam
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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