From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Sat Jun 12 2004 - 22:19:12 BST
Mark 12-6-04: Hello dmb, May i ask you to avoid using coloured text please?
My computer and screen are so old you would not believe, and blue text does
not look good for me. Thanks.
[David Buchanan] Blue text? I don't know how to fix that. For reasons that
are beyond me, that's just what happens when I respond to your posts. It
also inserts my full name in bracketts. In fact, I was going to ask you to
do something about it. Apparently, we are both annoyed by it.
Mark said:
Quality produces aesthetic harmony. Aesthetic harmony is moral.
This is the oldest idea known to man.
Coherence is an MOQ derived way of describing Harmonious aesthetic
relationships between static patterns.
dmb says:
Coherence describes what? This is exactly what I DON'T understand. Here you
seem to be expressing your main idea about coherence (I guess?) but it makes
no sense to me. There are many kinds of Quality. There are many kinds of
morals. There are many kinds of static patterns. Its just too vague. It is
so broadly stated that it means nothing. Further, it seems that the MOQ
describes the reasons for and the purpose of CONFLICT, not harmony. The
discrete nature of the levels precludes such harmony. I just don't know how
to object in any way that is more specific because it all looks like a big
jumbled and mixed and tnalged and vague and contradictory. This is so ironic
that its funny. You're making an incoherent and artless argument in favor
coherence and art.
[David Buchanan] I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but this just won't
do. Can't you offer quotes, examples, explanations and maybe a definition or
two? Again, I'm quite sincere when I say this makes no sense. It may hurt
your feelings, and it might not be true for everyone, but it is still a
genuine point.
Maybe reading your essay would help, but I have not read it because (A) I
never read an essay on the site that was worth the effort and (B) I can
barely understand your posts and so have no confidence that your essay would
be much different and C) I'm up to my eyeballs in unread material that I
actuallly want to read. (Like McWatt's text book for starters)
I[David Buchanan] 've been through this sort of thing with others and have
lost my patience. I've already asked several times. I will read whatever
answers you'd care to provide, but I won't ask you again. Either you have a
clear answer or you don't. I really don't want to go round and round. At the
risk of being rude, either put up or shut up. Make the case or leave me
alone. No hard feelings either way.
Thanks,
dmb
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