From: Paul Turner (paul@turnerbc.co.uk)
Date: Tue Jul 27 2004 - 09:38:38 BST
Hi Mel
Paul previously said:
> Wealth is clearly linked with success enough for it be part of its
> definition. To put it another way, I ask you the same question I asked
> Platt - do you think intellectual quality is the most dominant measure
> of success in western society?
Mel said:
After reflecting on the question I am going to have to say that I do not
think wealth is the dominant measure, but rather CELEBRITY is.
Paul:
Also a social quality measure.
Mel said:
It will of course depend on the "community of interest" in which the
measure of success is determined or traded upon. For political arenas
ACCESS is a better measure For medicine, the Published Accomplishments
For authors, the numbers sold or the recognition may surpass the $ For
athletes in the short run $ may be part of it, but in the long run Hall
of Fame, and such will be their more enduring legacy.
Paul:
The "community of interest" I was thinking of was society as a whole, or
perhaps a nation as a whole. Perhaps this is too broad to be meaningful?
Mel said:
So, then subverting the social artifact of money to biological enjoyment
is an immoral act...?
Paul:
I think so, when things get over-valued maybe, like a £20,000 bottle of
champagne - how good can some fizzy grape juice taste? I think this kind
of thing often provokes a "something wrong there" reaction with people.
Cheers
Paul
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