From: Sam Norton (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Fri Sep 02 2005 - 17:33:35 BST
We have only had two votes in. They are for different topics. I'm extending
the deadline for another 48 hours to see if more people are able to vote
over the weekend. New deadline is Sunday afternoon, 4pm British Summer Time.
If nobody else votes for one of the topics then I will choose one of the two
that have so far been voted for. If either of the two people who have voted
already want to change their vote, that's OK too.
A reminder of the possible options, with Rick's new proposal added in first
#0 from Rick
1. In terms of Quality (the vocabulary of the MOQ), discuss what it means to
be a cult.
2. In terms of Quality (the vocabulary of the MOQ), discuss what it means to
be a free-thinker.
3. In terms of what you answered to parts 1 and 2, discuss why it is (or why
it is not) possible to be devoted to a person, activity, or idea (like an
organized religion, or a specific philosophy/metaphysics) and still consider
oneself a "free thinker".
#1 from Case:
Is "Quality" really a useful term?
After reading ZMM I thought so; after reading through this site I am not so
Can a more appropriate term be found in the following list?
Vanity of Vanities
(_____ insert term here.)
#2 from Kevin Perez
I would like to hear what others have to say about the MOQ's role in
establishing, in the area of religion, a rational relationship between
Quality and "the Godhead."
In the area of Religion, the rational relationship of Quality to the Godhead
needs to be more thoroughly established, and this I hope to do much later
on. (ref. ZMM p. 231)
So I propose the following questions.
Has Pirsig established this relationship? If so, where? Was Lila, Part
Three, an attempt?
#3 from Mark Maxwell
"Is the belief that one has a Soul compatible with the Metaphysics of
#4 from Mark Maxwell
"If one behaved like a Christian in all respects but did not believe in God,
who would be the higher Quality person - the believer or the other"?
#5 from Mark Maxwell
"Is it possable to be a free thinker AND a devout Christian"?
#6 from Mark Maxwell
"In order for Christianity to survive as a social pattern it must deny an
Intellectual level for the MOQ. Such denials must, paradoxically, employ
Intellectual patterns in order to succeed."
#7 from Mark Maxwell
"An MOQ analysis supports the surprising conclurion that Christians value
narcissism, directly contradicting there own teaching."
#8 from Mark Maxwell
"The church of England is a social organisation who's members do not live in
the real world"
Discuss from an MOQ percpective.
#9 from Mark Maxwell
"An MOQ analysis suggests Christianity is a cult."
Cult n specific system of worship; devotion to a person, idea, or activity;
popular fashion. Collins Gem English dictionary.
From the cowardice that shrinks from new truth,
From the laziness that is content with half-truths,
From the arrogance which thinks it knows all truth,
O God of truth, deliver us.
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