Doug Renselle (renselle@on-net.net)
Fri, 29 Aug 1997 18:26:38 +0100
Magnus Berg wrote:
> >To finish of I have a spontanious thought that popped into my mind:
> >If the dynamic quality is filled with to many levels,do we not lose
> >the flexibillity and power. E.G. If a quantum level is added, then
> >it sounds to me that it is just sucking up to modern science.
> >Is The quantum theory not only a theory (that is valid TODAY) which
> >explains matter.
> >
> ...sucking up... :-)
>
> Yeah, I'm also a little skeptic about adding new levels,
> static levels that is, not dynamic, but I guess that was
> a typo. That got me thinking about what it takes to
> define a new level. What makes two static levels different?
> If this can be defined, you could match the new level against
> the others and see if it really *is* a new, different level.
>
> Here's an attempt at this. Feel free to argue. Who am I to
> stop you guys anyway? :-)
>
> I'd say that the answer is in Lila, where else? Pirsig states
> that any static level above another is more moral than the other.
> So, take set A containing patterns belonging to the new level,
> and a reference set B containing patterns belonging to a known
> level. Then, if all patterns in set A is more (less) moral
> than all patterns in set B, this would mean that the new level
> is above (below) the known level. Repeat this with reference
> sets from all known levels and you could place the new level
> in the correct place.
>
> Apply this to quantum physics and I'd say that inorganic
> patterns are more moral than quantum fluctuations.
I agree, Magnus, but Pirsig says Dynamic Quality is in the background of
the static patterns, but pervades them. I wonder if the quantum level
is where pervasion originates. Perhaps quantum flux is a form of
pervasion? Diana thinks Pirsig lumped all of this into the inorganic
level. And Pirsig suggests that probability value only has one possible
home among his four layers: the inorganic level.
As I said at the beginning, I am speculating. That seems to stir much
emotion.
>
>
> In the beginning there was chaos... ;-)
Indeed!
Doug Renselle.
>
>
> > Magnus
> >
>
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