Doug Renselle (renselle@on-net.net)
Tue, 7 Oct 1997 19:56:11 +0100
Magnus Berg wrote:
>
> Diana wrote:
> >
> > However if you think that defining the taste of chocolate is a
> worthwhile
> > intellectual pursuit then go ahead, and good luck.
>
> Diana listen to me! I'm not trying to define the biological experience
> of chocolate taste! I'm trying to define the subjects of the Quality
> Event.
> I think you're trying to deny the existence of the subjects and
> objects
> that are the result of each and every Quality Event. I think you're
> stuck
> on: "Everything is value".
>
> > Okay, the point is not to outsmart other people. The idea of a chess
> strategy
> > is to test the rationality of your own ideas. If you can find a flaw
> in them
> > then that's because there *is* a flaw in them and you need to go
> back to the
> > drawing board and rethink the whole thing.
>
> Or that someone else rethinks or modifies it to get rid of the flaw.
> This is
> exactly the way rational scientific work is done today and much of the
> reason
> why Phaedrus doubted its use. The difference today is that we
> (hopefully) won't
> try to explain irrational phenomenon by rational means.
>
> Something like:
>
> MoQ grant us the serenity to accept the things we can not define
> Courage to define the things we can
> And the wisdom to know the difference.
>
> > On the contrary it is easy to see that a human is biological value
> and
> > designer fashion is social value. Any reasonable person can see the
> rationale
> > behind this, even if they don't accept it. (A computer might not
> find it so
> > easy though.)
>
> Hey Doug, I'm a computer too. ;-)
Magnus,
I doubt it, Magnus -- per your own test, you continue to delight and
surprise me!
Doug.
>
> Magnus
>
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