Gene Kofman (its@icanect.net)
Wed, 12 Nov 1997 08:36:34 +0100
Bodvar wrote (Oct 29):
> We all agree that subjects and objects become subordinate to quality
> in the MOQ. Pirsig (in the SODAV paper) divided the four static
> quality levels into two 'subjective' ones (Society and Intellect) and
> two 'objective' ones (Matter and Life), but this is not substantial
> to the MOQ, I believe it more was Pirsig's attempt to "ingratiate"
> himself to the SOM-steepen audience. No, the way subjects and
> objects become subsets is that objects become Inorganic- and subjects
> become Intellectual value. This causes a metamorphosis to Matter,
> but so it does to Mind! . The Static Intellectual level is no longer
> consciousness of objective reality, but CONSCIOUSNESS OF THE VALUE OF
> FREEING ONESELF FROM SOCIETY'S BOND.
This is a very good point, Bo.
Bodvar wrote:
> I should also have liked to treat the obvious question: "Where does
> the mental activity take place if not in the mind?", but this is more
> than enough for now.
I'd be very interested to see your treatment of that obvious question.
Bodvar wrote:
> ...Mind is dynamic while the world is ordered! I will have to
> think how this fits into the MOQ scheme. He still upholds the
> mind/world dualism admittedly, ut hardly in the ordinary sense, and
> it struck me intuitively: Isn't this Pirsig's claim too? Reality (the
> world) is ordered in four discrete levels, while "mind" is everything
> and nothing; another way of calling it chaotic or dynamic.
> Whatever its merits, it shows what tremendous pressure is building to
> escape from SOM's chains.
This aproach does collaborate MOQ.
Thanks for clarifications, Bodvar.
Gene.
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