LS Re: logic and gravity


Platt Holden (pholden@worldnet.att.net)
Sun, 23 Nov 1997 03:55:06 +0100


Anders wrote:

>> While logic per
> > definition doesn't deal with objects or subjects, but deals with the
> > truthfullness of sentences.

Logic doesn't deal with truth, just its own rules. You can construct a
perfectly valid syllogism whose conclusion is false. Truth in logic depends
on propositions and premises which can be either true or false or, in fuzzy
logic, partly true and partly false.

Mark wrote:
 
> Sorry to appear tangential to your original thread, but you are using
> the terms "subject" and "object" in an unusual way for me. Could you
> please help me understand? Do you agree that "subject" implies the self
> and "objects" are all that is not self?
>
I agree. To a subject the whole world consists of objects including the
symbols and rules of logic. Even a subject is an object to itself as
expressed in the question, "Who is the I that knows me?"

> If you are saying that logic deals with things which are not subjects,
> nor objects, then, according to Pirsig, you have defined Quality.
 
Right.
 
> So if you are saying none of these, then you have a different definition
> for "subject" and "object."
>
> This is where I would like help.
 
I'd also be interested in Anders definitions of subject and object.

Platt

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