Doug Renselle (renselle@on-net.net)
Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:19:50 +0100
clark wrote:
>
> >
> > Platt, Doug and LS
...
> >
> Hugo,
> If you are not familiar with it, a book by James Gleick, 'Chaos
> (Deterministic Disorder)', will make your point for your nicely.
> In the words of Gleick, "Chaos shows how a purposeless flow of
> energy can
> wash life and consciousness into the world."
> If I understand your position correctly you are saying that Dynamic
> Quality is bounded by the Static Patterns of Value because Dynamic
> Quality
> is dependent on those SPOVs for its preconditioning and thus is not
> entirely a free agent. I think I also agree with Doug that there is no
> upper limit on either static quality (SPOVs) or Dynamic Quality.
> I looked at one of your early (to me) posts to Martin I believe, and
> I
> agree with you that given the starting point of the universe our
> presence
> here is almost, or is, a foregone conclusion.
> Ken Clark
>
Ken, Hugo and TLS,
Thanks Ken! You answered for me.
Also, I agree with Hugo that the word 'proof' is a misnomer (i.e., our
accepted definition and intuitive grasp of the word) in the sense that
we have to accept, due to the inherent dual of certainty both/and
uncertainty, that all proofs are provisional. I suggest we change the
title of that Principle to "Provisional Proof," or something like that.
Platt, none of this detracts one iota from the goodness of your
Principle of Proof.
Doug.
-- "The cause of our current social crises,..., is a genetic defect within the nature of reason itself."By Robert M. Pirsig, in 'Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance,' p. 102 (paperback), Bantam, 28th edition, May 1982.
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