Diana McPartlin (diana@asiantravel.com)
Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:10:15 +0100
Hi Doug and squad
All you have shown in any of these quotes is that Dynamic Quality cannot
be determined.
Your uncertainty principle would seem to say that we can predict static
quality but we can't predict Dynamic Quality. If that's all it is then
why not incorporate it into the Dynamic-static principle? If you can
separate Quality into a part that is deterministic and a part that isn't
then there is no contradiction. Why not just explain what the
deterministic and non-deterministic parts are? It's far simpler than
asserting that Quality both can and cannot be determined at the same
time. And, again, this is not the same paradigm as the wave-particle
phenomenon. Waves and particles are not two distinct concepts within
light that have different characteristics. There are the same thing. DQ
and SQ, however *are* two distinct concepts within Quality that have
different characteristics. They are not the same thing.
I'm quite happy to accept that DQ can neither be defined nor determined.
To try and fit DQ into a deterministic pattern is to try and fit it into
a SOM cause and effect pattern, and of course you can't do it.
But DQ can still be experienced and consequently it can still be known.
chp 32:
"From the static point of view the whole escape into Dynamic Quality
seems like a death experience. It's a movement from something to
nothing. How can nothing be any different from death? Since a Dynamic
understanding doesn't make the static distinctions necessary to answer
that question, the question goes unanswered. All the Buddha could say
was "See for yourself"."
Pirsig talks about a "Dynamic understanding", this shows that he
believes that DQ can be understood. But this understanding "doesn't make
the static distinctions necessary to answer that question", in other
words this understanding can't be explained in terms of static concepts,
ie words. All the Buddha can say is "see for yourself". In other words,
the Buddha can't tell you what it is, but he can point the way and you
can experience it for yourself, and then you'll understand.
Diana
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