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I've just been alerted to the fact that two topic suggestions weren't included in the list I sent out yesterday. My sincere apologies to John B and Marco, however I did not receive their posts. As apparently everyone else did receive them and they have shown up in the archive, I can only assume that there is some problem with my ISP. Very sorry about this, the Internet is not the most stable medium in the world and these things happen.
As this is just a mailing list with a dozen or so people voting and not a national election, I feel the fairest thing to do is to extend voting by a day and ask everyone to vote again.
So can everyone please reconsider their vote based on the list below. If you wish to change your vote please email the list. If you have already voted and do not vote again I will assume that you are sticking with your original vote. Voting will be closed at 24:00hrs on 1 September.
Thanks for your patience
Diana
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1. (Avid Anand)
My suggested topic is "WHAT IS THE BEST FORM OF A SPQ [Static Quality Pattern]". As we know Pirsig makes the primal cut between SQ and DQ. However immersed as we still are in old SOM, we continue to think in its terms. It is hard
for us to see/imagine/feel the building stones of MoQ, it cannot be subjects and object, but it should somehow contain them, but how? What is the best "brick" [SPQ] to build MoQ from? How does it reflect the primary of the experience of quality? How does this "brick" [SPQ] relate to the 4 layers?
2. (Bodvar Skutvik)
Seen in the light of the MOQ, what is it that is described in the last part of ZMM (The Greeks). Is it the emergence of SOM, the"coming of age" of the Intellectual level, or...?
3. (Kevin Sanchez)
i suggest we discuss pragmatic implementations of the metaphysics of quality in the thinking space of the social/political + specifically, how does it concieve.of/ operationalize social agency? and how does it approach matters of (governmental?) policy? - pirisigs' works have much to contribute to philosophies of laws, revolution(aries), economics, free will.vs.determinism, etc. which have tremendous implications for policy-making + let us systematize these meandering (?) political thoughts into one style of thinking + (warning: i'm not suggesting specific stances on political matters; only specific ways of concieving/analyizing/valuing political questions)
4. (Jonathan Marder)
"Lila" is Hinduism's dance of the divine.
"Lilith" is a mythical temptress (Babylonian and Hebrew mythology)
Rigel and Capela are both ancient names given to stars (the atsronomical type, not celebraties).
Is Pirsig deliberately alluding to ancient myths? Are there more of them hiding in his novels?
5. (John Beasley)
I would like to suggest debating my latest contribution to the Forum (Creating ans Organismic Metaphysics of Quality) which attempts a basic critique of Pirsig's ideas from the point of view of the organism. I would value the opportunity to clarify my own thoughts, but more importantly I think I have thrown up a few real challenges which could stimulate some thinking on the basics.
6. (Marco)
What is the MISSION of the intellectual level? When and WHY it was born? Was
it been able to give an answer to the requirements for which it was born ?
How many problems are not still solved, and did it create new requirements ?
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