LS
[BO]
> "Primacy of experience", yes, but experience is of all levels and
> we are of all levels. "Man and his experience" (from your previous
> post) becomes so mind-like.
[DLT]
Got it. Subtle but important shift from ZAMM quote "Man and his experience" to
experience is man in Lila.
[BO]
> Oh, is it that bad Dave?
[DLT]
It can be. Just when I think I have a tentative grasp; someone,in this case
you, slip me a monkey wrench by saying:.
> To see SOM as merely one intellectual pattern and MOQ as another
> IP containing itself is untenable.
Round and round it goes again. This time the rational wheels I stop on, Nope.
The static side of the MoQ is a hierarchical system of patterns evolving
towards DQ, Quality, Good, pick your term. Pirsig's response Ant "That is one
of the highest quality intellectual patterns there is" indicates to me that
this hierarchy must also continue within the levels. The levels seem to me
only necessary to explain the MoQ to the SOM community,US. What we have is a
continuim of SPoV evolving towards Good, which are a grouped for convenience
of explanation in terms that originate in the currently dominate metaphysics,
SOM.
Since metaphysics is the broadest and most general statements about reality it
make sense to me that it should be the highest quality intellectural pattern.
THE "program slip" if you will. Right now I think we can all agree that in
the Western world that position is held by SOM. What the MoQ espires for is to
get to the top of the stack, at which time SOM will still be in the stack just
of a lesser quality. If the MoQ, in time, dominates SOM those SOM-SPoV which
are of the highest quality will remain, those that are not will die. But the
millienium after the coming would be too quick to expect that to happen on a
global scale.
The other thing this perspective allows is for a new program slip
(metaphysics) to be added on in the future when a higher quality one comes along.
Confusedly yours
Dave
MOQ.org - http://www.moq.org
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