Re: MD free will as a meaningless term

From: David Lind (Trickster@postmark.net)
Date: Thu Feb 10 2000 - 15:52:51 GMT


Matthew Ketchum wrote:

> IV. David Lind wrote:
>
> "Seems there's at least a third alternate to determined or random.
> What if life is "pre-programmed"? Neither random or up to us to
> choose what will happen. What if we are merely playing our parts in
> some grand cosmic play? (I don't necessarily believe this, but it's
> possible, isn't it?)"
>
> My response:
>
> I don't exactly know what you mean, but let me try to clarify my position
> and see if that helps. I don't think anyone would argue that human actions
> aren't determined by human will. That is, ultimately, human beings take
> actions that they wish to take. However, the question still remains as to
> what determines human will. Actually, the first question is whether or not
> it is determined at all. I think that the answer is obviously yes, because
> if something isn't determined, then it HAS to be random,
>

David Lind writes.....

What I was presenting (in a very limited manner) is what I believe is
called fatalism. That all of life is already laid out. We do what we
are fated to do. Not a bunch of random acts and not a eries of
independent determined choices. But we live out our lives fated to do
what we do. This seems to me to be different than random or
determined.

And then there's the phrase - "if you could have done it differently,
you would have done it differently" - every action we take is the
only action we could take at that moment based upon our unique
experiences. This doesn't seem to be random or determined. i mean,
how can i make a determined choice if the "choices" i make are the
only ones i can make based upon my life to that point?

Shalom

David Lind
Trickster@postmark.net

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