> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Lennox [SMTP:peter@lennox01.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 1:28 PM
> To: moq_discuss@moq.org
> Subject: Re: MD Moral Sense?
>
> Just a quick one, regarding the "physical senses" : how many of those do
> members of this list suppose we have? - if they're so concrete, we'd
> surely
> be able to enumerate them fairly easily, wouldn't we?.......
> All right, I'll own up: it's a trick question. Nobody has ever been able
> to
> arrive at a consensus as to how many senses we have, any more than they
> have been able to arrive at how many "instincts" we have. It's a hornets'
> nest,
> this.
>
[David Buchanan] Peter, I don't get it. I thought there were five
physical senses and that the only controversy about it comes from the
belevers in ESP or other paranormal ideas. I can see how "instincts" might
be harder quantify or even to identify, but the senses? A trick question?
Please explain.
And if I may... The hot stove example speaks to this issue of
"physical senses", I think. In a way, I think Pirsig is just saying that
reality is something that happens before you have a chance to think about
it. And it seems that he's even saying that experience of value even
preceeds the transmission of raw sensory data, which is more like a result
of the primary experience. That's how Pirsig's RADICAL Empiricism is
different than the empiricism of Kant or the other modern epistemologists.
They were talking about sensory data and the way our minds shape it, but
Pirsig is talking about experience in a broader sense. Its hard to talk
about this stuff, but it seems "experience" as a product of the physical
senses is very much a SOM conception and the MOQ's sense of "experience" is
about an event that occurs before the senses are activated, if you will.
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