Dan, Marco and 3WD:
Let me try to address an issue, though it is at the risk of typing something
that I will later find problems with. (Certainly I should be willing to
engage in such a RISKY business?)
MARCO:
>So, you also are with Elephant and Roger, I guess, assuming that static
>quality is the realm of concepts. I don't think so. Even if I can't be
>sure, I find more probable and in agreement with common experience that
>there is something of static even out of the realm of concepts, than the
>contrary. In your vision, DQ becomes something of completely transcendent,
>and you build IMO a perfect dualism. Static concepts on one side, and a
>flowing DQ outside (let me know which of the two is in your opinion
>*real*....).
DAN:
Perhaps insisting on keeping Dynamic Quality concept-free does make it seem
like Dynamic Quality is "outside" but that is not what I mean at all.
Concepts arise Dynamically. There is no dualism, nor can Dynamic Quality be
"inside" or "outside" of static quality. Those are concepts pertaining to
static quality patterns of value.
MARCO:
>At the contrary, I think that DQ is immanent in reality, just like SQ, and
>that even concepts are part of the flow. Concepts are sort of alive and
>changing, according to the same behavior of rocks, plants and governments.
>And rocks, plants and governments are not merely concepts.
ROG:
If the world is viewed as formed of experience [experience=reality=Quality]
then our divisions and aggregations of this reality into patterns of internal
or external patterns of experience are themselves quite valuable. The belief
that these patterns are objective or subjective is valuable too.
We do not deny experiences nor do we deny patterns of experience, nor do we
deny the value of concepts. Remember though that the concept of a
rock/plant/government is a concept (tautology), but that the concept does
have a referent to a complex set of shared experiences. ICBW though.
Rog
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