In a message dated 11/17/01 4:09:26 AM GMT Standard Time,
beasley@austarnet.com.au writes:
<< Pirsig himself does not seem to have a clear position on whether
there is an ultimate quality to which we all make our varied ways, or if,
rather, each of us finds a different quality that is in part shaped by our
varied experiences, etc. Wilber is much clearer here. He argues that quality
is layered, organised holarchically, and that we all pass through similar
stages in a direction that does tend towards increased depth and quality.
Where Pirsig uses the word quality, Wilber would use consciousness, which
seems to upset you, but I can't see why it should. >>
Quality is not, 'to which we all make our varied ways, or if,
rather, each of us finds a different quality that is in part shaped by our
varied experiences,'
Quality is prior to all this. Our experience IS generated by Quality.
To argue that Quality is ANYTHING; layered or whatever is missing the whole
thing.
Will someone out there deal with this blithering idiot we know and assume to
be John Beasley or what?
Squonk.
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