Re: MD Quality and information theory

From: Ross Balmer (ross@i2dm.co.uk)
Date: Tue Dec 25 2001 - 00:09:20 GMT


Thanks for your answer. That was my first post, it's nice to have someone
write back so quickly and interestingly.

I'd love you to go into more detail. I think your insight about dynamic
quality and the pursuit of new information is very interesting and a good
beginning.

I suspect the MOQ would survive the rewrite pretty much intact and for my
own interest I'm very interested in working this through further. I've been
wondering whether perhaps such a reworking may help to make the MOQ appeal
to an audience that Pirsig's books have yet to reach. I'd be interested to
find out whether the shift in perspective makes any of the more difficult
concepts of the MOQ easier to comprehend, and whether, assuming the physics
works, it allows us to create a more unified view of the world.

Also, I'm especially keen to figure out how to make the MOQ easier to
explain
 - for instance to think about how it could be taught to a child.

Thanks,
Ross.

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Subject: Re: MD Quality and information theory

> ROSS:
> I've often wondered if physical systems can be described purely in terms
of
> the transfer of information. I recently found an article in New Scientist
> magazine (see below) about recasting physics in just such terms. This, to
> me, seems like it might be related to the idea of Quality, for what is
> information but patterns of value? Does this seem like a reasonable
> suggestion?
>
> ROG:
> I suspect this as well. I think one could rewrite much of the MOQ in terms
of
> information (to the dismay and horror of the 'mystics'). The value in a
> pattern then becomes a measure of the information contained within or
> protected by the pattern. And DQ becomes pursuit of new information (at
the
> never-ending risk of just finding noise).
>
> I find incredible value in the information metaphor, and would love to go
> into it in more detail if you desire.
>
> Rog
>
> PS -- I guess I would say an information map is a different map than a
> quality map which is different than a subject/object map. Each has
strengths
> and weaknesses.
>
>
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