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Hi Rod,
We are not debating whether we agree/disagree with these we were debating
whether they were provisionally true or absolutely true---with all the
exceptions , nothing can be proven 100%, and it may not be so for all time--
you are actually supporting our argument. I am beginning to think there is no
way to resolve this argument. Let's part ways and I will accept everything you
and Platt say as provisionally true, you and Platt can accept everything I say
as absolutely true. Just kidding,
Good-bye, (a provisional good-bye)
Erin
>As for statement 2 I didn't say that the speed of light didn't vary
>dependant upon the refractive index of the medium it is passing through,
>what I said was that light moves away from an object at C, this is totally
>independent of the medium.
>
>Erin, Rick
>
>There is nothing in this universe that we can prove 100% to 100% of people,
>but what is the point of constantly disagreeing with something, because it
>supports your argument to do so, when logically it makes sense to agree!
>
>I can't see any way round this!!
>
> As for the Chaos theory conjecture , all chaotic systems can be simplified
>to their base components, and it is these, basic "elements" which are
>predictable and/or described by scientific truth. It is only the behavior of
>these basic elements which appears to be chaotic, but just because something
>appears chaotic to us now, it may not be so for all time!!!
>
>Rick
>
>And for Pirsig to say that gravity did not exist before newton is simply
>outrageous and argumentative on his part, and for you to use this as support
>for any argument beggars belief
>
>Let's agree that when writing ZMM I am certain that Pirsig did not mean for
>every sentence, every paragraph to stand up to scrutiny independently.
>
>Rod
>
>on 2/24/02 3:27 AM, Glenn Bradford at gmbbradford@netscape.net wrote:
>Rod
>>> ...I find myself aligning with Platt, there are absolutes (truths)
>>
>>> For example:-
>>
>>> 1. time always moves forward
>>
>>> 2. light moves away from an object at C - the speed of light, C (the
>>> constant) may change , but light will still move away from an object at C
>>
>>> 3. each dimension in the universe runs at an equal angle away from all
>>> others
>>
>>> I'd like to see anyone counter these
>
>
>>Glenn
>> #1 seems to be true, but we can't be sure. No law of physic demands this.
>>
>> As to #2, C varies depending on the medium light passes through. It goes
>> fastest in a vacuum. I'm not exactly sure what you are claiming is
>> absolute here. Are you talking about special relativity?
>>
>> #3 Huh? New one on me, Rod.
>>
>> Glenn
>
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