Re: MD Oldest idea

From: skutvik@online.no
Date: Tue Feb 26 2002 - 09:13:40 GMT


On 23 Feb 2002, at 16:51, David Buchanan wrote:

> A funny thing happened on the way to making a list of quotes for our
> political compass. The reading and thinking I did while away from here
> mixed nicely with the re-reading of Lila and it gave me some
> surprizes. I discovered some fresh answers to Bodvar's SOLAQI, Mr.
> Beasley's points on the mysticism of Pirsig and, hopefully, some fresh
> ideas about the 4th & 5th codes too ....etc.

David
Your "oldest ideas" piece was great. Rod's complaint about the
discussion is here redeemed: A grand overview that puts the MoQ
in a perspective that almost goes a step further than Pirsig!!! Phew,
it left me in the dust ....until I understood that the dust was from
the same road ahead ;-). Your "cultural derivation" argument
sounded like a refutation of my SOL-interpretation, but as soon as I
got my bearings I saw that it affirmed a hunch of mine.

Look: LILA points to an alliance between Intellect and Biology (the
egg-heads and the criminals) to fight Society. I think it's a rule that
the upper level seeks support from the one below its parent level
and that this is what you demonstrate by returning so strongly to
the social level. The ally of something that wants to undermine
Intellect is Society.

You are right in so doing, but we need to look at the QM as
something beyond intellect to free Pirsig from the neo-fascist
accusations that followed LILA. Seen as a pattern that struggles
with SOM for control of the intellectual level makes him one - even
seen from his own system - that the LILA reviewers didn't have an
inkling is another matter. More about this masterpiece later.
Bo

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