Hi Wim
I am starting to see your point.... who did introduce the " leading nation",
I agree there are more important things than american TV shows, and I
certainly want this discussion to be one of the progress of mankind, not
just a certain section of it.
My fear is we must avoid taking the moral high ground in defining too
rigidly, the paths to a more utopian society.
If we were to be democratic about this then the chinese culture of Taoism ,
who have more followers than all the other religions combined, would have
the greatest say in the " right Path",........ a situation I would be more
than happy to follow.
But as we are not likely to do this, any discussion must from my part take
account of this and other factors.
Please let us avoid the arrogant belief that west is best, and east is least
Thank you for your patience
Rod
on 3/11/02 10:10 PM, Wim Nusselder at wim.nusselder@antenna.nl wrote:
> Dear Rod,
>
> In reply to your somewhat irritated remarks of 10/3 23:20 +0000:
> Sorry to have caused them (or should I say 'valued' them in MoQish? (-; ).
> Nothing wrong with expressing your personal opinions. I hope you allow me to
> express whether I see value in them in the context of the thread as it was
> developing.
> As for your not seeing what I am getting at: I honestly don't know were this
> thread will lead (as long as it is not flooded with low-quality discussion
> about lousy television shows), which is my equivalent of Roger's openness to
> learn. I do know that I would value a bit more openness of some of you
> Americans to the idea that the whole of mankind is indeed member of a global
> society (apart from being hopelessly set up against each other in separate
> societies), which implies the need for a global system of rights, duties and
> responsibilities. Until I have some trust that I can get that point across
> in a non-provocative way (and more specific than I am doing now), I prefer
> to talk about society in general.
> I didn't introduce the notion of 'leading nation'. I am highly suspicious of
> anyone calling his nation 'leading' in a general sense.
> Isn't 'defining codes of practice for mankind' what the intellectual level
> is about if it is going to lead social patterns of values toward Dynamic
> Quality? There are no rights and no paths to heaven safe the rights we grant
> each other and the paths we cut in the jungle. Doing just that, granting
> others rights and cutting paths in the social jungle, is exactly what gives
> our lives Meaning. (I am just expressing a personal opinion of course.)
>
> With friendly greetings,
>
> Wim
> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> Van: "Rod" <ramrod@madasafish.com>
> Aan: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
> Verzonden: maandag 11 maart 2002 0:20
> Onderwerp: Re: MD Is Society Progressing?
>
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