Hey Squok,
you said:
I have a feeling Dynamic quality and Static quality are NOT Quality with a
capital Q!
'DQ and SQ' is a Classic knife up job on Quality itself which remains
undefined.
Therefore, DQ would be equivalent with Romantic quality, and Static quality
would be equivalent with Classic quality, which is exactly what Pirsig says
they are in ZMM.
I say:
Well, just because neither are Quality with a capital Q doesnt mean they are
the same. Infact, having them the same conflicts with Pirsigs realization
that romantic and classic quality are not the best division for the MoQ and
that DQ and SQ are. Pirsig says they are equivilant and yet he hadn't
devised DQ/SQ at this point. he chosses classic and romantic to seperate
two types of people, and i dont think Pirsig means to imply that romantics
are more dynamic and therefor of a higher order than classics (whose
divsions of the world flux as quickly as romantics perceptions do).
Squok:
If Classic quality emerges from the undifferentiated holistic
harmony of Romantic quality, does that mean that all static actualities are
'already there' in Romantic quality as potential?
Elliot:
replace classic and romantic with static and Dynamic and i refer you to the
buddhist truth "samsara is nirvana". The world is undivided and infinitely
divisable, the potential for static patterns (divsions) is inherent in the
mind of the sentient being. the world does not change, not does the
individual, bur perception shifts from delusion to Quality.
Again, the classic romantic split was devised to explain why some enjoy art
and some enjoy philosophy. artists and philosophers see the same thing
inorder to derive their respective perceptions, but that is DQ not romantic.
Artists find romantic and philosophers and mechanics find classic.
Mechanics often dont like abstract art nor atists equations. the confusion
here stems from what i think to be Pirsigs confusion before finally
realizing the structure of the current MoQ.
Elliot
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