Scott:
I would repharase that somewhat:
Experience is. Experiencing is.
Anything languaged is not the thing itself.
Discussed experience was.
Discussed experience is of the past.
Thought about experience is of the past.
val
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Subject: Re: MD What is SOM?
Erin,
enoonan wrote:
> Hi Squonk,
>
> I have serious doubts whether a person can experience the NOW, I think
> it would be too overwhelming.
You might be interested in the following, from Georg Kuhlewind's "Stages
of Consciousness", p. 25:
"...consciousness only "experiences" the already-thought, whereas the
*process* of thinking lies *before* what has been thought. Therefore
this process -- the coming into being of thought -- is preconscious.
Without finished thoughts and finished representations, there is no
consciousness in the usual sense of the word."
That is, experience is always experience of the past, for normal
consciousness.
- Scott
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