Re: MD Consciousness

From: SQUONKSTAIL@aol.com
Date: Wed Jul 03 2002 - 10:55:36 BST


In a message dated 7/3/02 2:23:37 AM GMT Daylight Time,
gershomdreamer@yahoo.com writes:

> Gary's Response: The mind is according to Pirsig (& I agree) is the
> equivalent of the 4th level, INTELECT. The mind arises out of the biology
> of a human being. Much of the stuff that the mind deals with is taught to
> each of us, including the language we use to think with, by
> SOCIETY/Pirsig's
> 3rd level. Thus much of the stuff of the 4th level/mind is "stored in
> society"/3rd level. All humans together by their actions make the 3rd
> level. The 4th level [which is 'in' every single individual human] and the
> 3rd level [which is a collection of all humans] come out of the 2nd level.
> And ultimately everything is made up of atoms & sub-atomic particles and
> thus all things come out of the 1st level.
> That is my take.
> MIND=PIRSIG'S INTELLECT 4TH LEVEL.
> Gary jaron
>

Hi Gary,
Evolution is the migration of stable static patterns of value towards dynamic
quality?
I agree mind is a concept which appears to be in 'mind' itself, so we may
usefully suggest that mind is something of an invention?
The concept is a stable static pattern of intellectual quality and as such is
not evolving?
The term 'mind' points to a process that IS evolving and a static description
of it is dead.

I suppose i am trying to say that a description or definition of mind is
inadequate.
That the concept mind arose from culture appears certain, but let us not
analyse mind as a real entity when it is more fictitious than otherwise?

Squonk.

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